monoceroset ([info]monoceroset) wrote,
@ 2009-01-08 21:55:00
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Lab notes online, in a way
In line with sentiments I put across in my previous post, I've been wasting some time on investigating online storage methods for keeping documents about my amateur projects in a permanent fashion. I've settled for the moment on Windows Live Skydrive, a Microsoft service. It has its problems--more on that below--but so far it comes closer to satisfying my requirements than the other services I've tried. Here's the stuff I have up so far, covering only the work I've done today:

http://cid-2c07675c825f849a.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/.Public

The criteria:

1. I wish to be able to store any kind of file in any hierarchy I choose. Articles I wish to save for future reference, for example, may be PDF files. Saving not merely photos but audio and video files may be an option in the future. Above all I need more than a top-level hierarchy. This immediately forbids the use of Google Notebook and Evernote.

2. I would like access to the online storage through the Windows file browser as though it were just another remote drive. This eliminates Box.net and others as a possibility.

3. I wish for the service to be provided by a reasonably trustworthy company who isn't going to disappear soon. Google and Microsoft, for example, I can trust, others less so.

4. I want a free service with sufficient storage space for the near future at least but with an upgrade path. Dropbox, for example, provides insufficient capacity for free users while giving them only a single, expensive paid option, so it's not a good choice.

5. I wish to be able to "publish" my notes by providing a URL anyone can view. This is not a strict criterion but, if I want to show someone exactly how I've been going about my experiments without having to write up a precis first, it'd be nice just to provide a URL. This eliminates Windows Live Mesh, which has a lot of good points but only allows sharing between individual Windows Live users.

Windows Live Skydrive provides a 25 GB quota without charge and is organized as a standard hierarchical file system. It's not likely to disappear, particularly because Microsoft has been working more Windows Live integration into Windows 7, which I will probably adopt sooner than later. It allows public sharing of folders. The one thing it does not do, for some reason, is provide integration with the Windows XP or Vista desktop. For this I must turn to a third-party application, Gladinet. I don't quite like that. It's a better option than my second choice, using Windows Live Mesh, which is well-integrated with the file browser but allows for no public sharing.

Get a load of that URL up top, though. Why they don't provide a sub-subdomain name or something else that yields a legible URL is beyond me. I trust they'll fix it eventually.



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[info]cheawick
2009-01-09 07:11 am UTC (link)
Have you thought of addressing the XP/Vista intergration to MicroSoft? May be perhaps something they simply overlooked and can provide a patch for. =+o

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[info]monoceroset
2009-01-09 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I have thought of it. From what I've seen online, a lot of people would like that feature, though, so I doubt whether one more voice would count for anything. Windows Live is still a work in progress and needs a bit of sorting out in general.

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[info]cheawick
2009-01-10 08:37 am UTC (link)
Ya never know mon, they may have a ticker tally that sounds an alert when something is brought up X number of times, think of it like voting perhaps. =+}

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[info]carlos_penguin
2009-01-09 08:46 am UTC (link)
Well ain't that sharing thing frickin' cool!

Why not run a small server from your apartment for your stuff? Lighttpd + SQL + some sort of FTP = win!

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[info]monoceroset
2009-01-09 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Our luck with file servers in the Misha+Mono household has been uniformly bad. We're not sure why things keep failing but they do. Drives go bad. The server software craps out (Misha's tried both XP Server and some variety of Linux or other--he knows the details.) When we got back from Michigan we found that our file server wouldn't give any sign of life whatever upon booting; evidently the motherboard failed in some way. We've been trying to maintain this file server for our private use as a centralized file repository and backup but of course the reliability problems would affect any public server as well.

That's why I've been looking into online storage instead. It's likely true that data saved in places like Google Docs will be more permanent than stuff stored at home. At least with our luck.

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[info]carlos_penguin
2009-01-09 10:53 pm UTC (link)
Well that just sucks!

But I have heard of this. It seems people will have great luck or zero luck with servers.

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[info]monoceroset
2009-01-09 11:15 pm UTC (link)
Misha jokes that computer equipment hates me and doesn't work right because I hate it. This problem of the file server, though, hurts both of us. :(

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[info]cheawick
2009-01-10 08:43 am UTC (link)
I've got one Windows NT file server and another computer I haven't turned on in forever, both are heavy as all sin and pretty dang big in size. I was about to gut them and trash 'em, or even trash them entirely. I'll send them to ya for the cost of shipping + insurance if you'd like. Only bad thing is that I DO NOT have the OS disks that are installed on them. An IT buddy of mine working for Tybrin Corp. gave them to me, sadly I did nothing with them really. =+\

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[info]monoceroset
2009-01-11 06:18 am UTC (link)
Nah, that's fine. We don't need to do anything right away and when we do we have...certain plans.

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[info]cheawick
2009-01-11 07:23 am UTC (link)
Copy that mon. Should ya change yer mind, I would really like to hang onto them, so I don't plan on doing anything to them until I'm forced to in March. =+}

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